Who is Simba and Nalas first born

[Eli_Ayase]

Oh boy, another one of these discussions. I'm just going to stalk this thread afterwards.

Kiara is the first born. I do take Kopa as a semi-canon, but this isn't a topic debate on Kopa. But by canon, yeah Kiara is. And everything was already pointed out how "Fluffy" is Kiara. So... yeah.

[Elton John]

Their firstborn was fluffy, whom was bitten by a radioactive spider and gained awesome powers, called himself spider-lion. Moved to new york city and eventually joined the lionvengers.

But seriously, its kiara. Kopa was never film canon, the canon that actually matters.

[gothprincesskiara]

(emotional roller coaster moment) .....I just cant get over this, it bothers me too much, my imagination says its kopa, and I will believe what I wish, cause of how I see it, now I know why other fans made all those Kopa myth stories which was a good idea, so im sticking with the fan made facts/myths and leaving it at that. I believe in Kopa I will believe what I want, by what my eyes see. And now im walking away.

[NaiaRulez]

I've got three theories;
The final cub in TLK was an undefined genre lion; TLK creator (from what I heard) told that the final cub was Fuffly, the undefined cub lion and Simba and Nala's son/daughter.
Then people think It's Kopa, but Kopa is just a fan-made character. (I think that Kopa is their first son)
And other people think It was Kiara according to original TLK movies, and the final cub was the beggining version of Kiara.

[Adofo]

Technically, "Fluffy" just because they didn't think The Lion King would get popular enough for a squeal(HA! Yeah right!) but it's Kiara. They just slightly altered the design. And Kopa is neither canon nor non-canon. Because they have said the books with Kopa in them are "in line" with the movies. What that means...we don't know. That's how it makes him neither. And Disney hasn't said if he's really canon to the movie timeline or not. So basically they wanted to leave it up to the fans to decide weather he's canon or not. Which they may end up doing with The Lion Guard and Kion too.

[Carl]

[quote]Because they have said the books with Kopa in them are "in line" with the movies.[/quote]
Correction: Alex Simmons said that, not Disney. Alex Simmons is the one who wrote the books Kopa is in, and created the character. He has also said that Kopa was never affiliated with Disney, and was merely a creation of his own under the Disney label.

Kopa is not, and never was canon. Fans don't get to decide what is or is not canon. Kiara is Simba and Nala's firstborn. She IS "Fluffy." End of story.

[S1mb4 D4 L10n]

^ Yep

Fluffy looks entirely androgynous, as a newborn would be. It is perfectly congruent with Fluffy being Kiara.

Kiara = canon
Kopa =/= canon

I know it's a hard pill for some people to swallow, but it's simply true.

[Adofo]

Sorry. I wasn't clear. I mean't they as in Alex Simmons said it's in line. Not Disney. My bad

[Taka1995]

Some people say that Kiara is their first daughter, but actually Kopa was born before the little princess of the Pride Lands

[SlayerOfLight]

[quote="Taka1995"]Some people say that Kiara is their first daughter, but actually Kopa was born before the little princess of the Pride Lands [/quote]

Are you trying to be funny?